In the 10th episode of the podcast "Tech Girls Talk," engineer Sawako and designer Mari engaged in a humorous yet insightful conversation about "Vibe Coding," a new development methodology. This article summarizes their discussion while offering insights into the future of creation.

What is Vibe Coding?

"Vibe Coding" refers to a new programming method where code is generated by giving AI instructions in natural language. For example, if you ask AI to "create an app that analyzes refrigerator contents and suggests lunch box ideas," it will output corresponding code, dramatically lowering the development hurdle.

While this trend opens development doors to non-engineers, it also raises concerns about security and technical debt.

The Sadness of Losing the "Creation Process"

Sawako, referencing the joy of making dinner, somewhat wistfully remarked, "If AI takes over cooking too, won't we lose the joy of creating?" Similarly, she expressed concern that as AI-automated generation advances, the satisfaction of writing code itself might diminish, weakening that "sense of creation."

On the other hand, she humorously admitted that on tired days, she'd like "a robot to make curry" for her.

The Dangers of Over-Relying on AI

From personal experience, Sawako shared that when her former workplace attempted to rebuild an existing Python system using AI, it appeared successful on the surface, but lacked relationships between code elements and structural coherence, ultimately requiring many corrections.

"AI is fast, but weak with delicate connections" - the resulting code looked as if concrete blocks had been stacked haphazardly.

New Trends and Concerns in AI Utilization

In the latter half of the program, they discussed news about UK startup "Trintech" launching "Artemis," a platform guaranteeing the quality of AI-generated code. Unlike conventional tools like GitHub Copilot, it features functionality to further verify and optimize AI-generated code.

Nevertheless, voices pointing out that AI security isn't foolproof were also raised, with shared vigilance against risks like confidential information such as API keys leaking from prompts.

What a World Where "Anyone Can Create" Means

Mari, from a designer's perspective, shared her experience with AI-automated website generation, recalling, "I was surprised at how easily something beautiful was created." We now live in an era where AI can complete in seconds tasks like creating to-do lists and mini-games that once required significant effort.

While Vibe Coding is opening an era where even non-engineers can bring their ideas to life, concerns about reducing opportunities to enjoy the "creation" process and learn craftsmanship remain.

Conclusion: Two Futures Illuminated by Vibe Coding

Throughout this episode, the underlying question was: "While things become more convenient, what happens to the 'soul' of creation?"

As AI permeates daily life and the boundary between "creating" and "having something created" becomes blurred, perhaps we are being asked anew about the "meaning of human creation."

Attention is focused on the future development of Vibe Coding and the establishment of new ethics and security sensibilities that accompany it.

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References

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibe_coding?utm_source=chatgpt.com
• https://www.freightwaves.com/news/vibe-coding-hits-freight-gaming-a-womans-journey-in-heavy-haul-what-the-truck
• https://techcrunch.com/2025/03/18/turintech-reveals-20m-in-backing-to-fix-problems-in-vibe-coding/
• https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43218410

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Transcript:

0:01: Welcome to Tech Girls Talk. On this radio show, women engineers and designers working in tech companies talk about trending topics.

0:08: We will be discussing technology and AI news. I am Mari, a designer.

0:14: I am Sawako, an engineer.

0:19: So, this is episode 10. Yes, the 10th episode.

0:26: Isn't this a congratulations day? [laughs] Yes, the 10th anniversary. The 10th anniversary.

0:33: Yes, yes, it's so good, I'm happy.

0:38: Yes, that's right. We have over 200 subscribers. Yes, yes, I'm happy. Thank you so much.

0:45: Thank you. I'm happy. I started out wondering if it was okay to just feel around.

0:53: Hey, really, yes, at first I wondered if I could do a podcast.

0:58: While thinking this, I'm talking about my language and I'm talking about high school in Osaka.

1:05: I went to high school, but everyone says that if you don't have a punch line, you're not good at speaking.

1:12: How should I put it, the hurdle for conversation is so high.

1:17: It's like starting with a hurdle like a high jump, and then you just keep going up until you're like a high jump.

1:25: It's a really high hurdle for conversation, so I'm not very good at speaking, in Osaka.

1:32: If you can't speak with Sa-san, then it's all over for people here in Tokyo. No, I don't have any jokes or punch lines, so sometimes I even say that to my friends.

1:41: I'm so bad at speaking that people say that I'm not good at speaking at home. It's not the same.

1:46: The real thing is the real thing, the real thing is comedy. So when you come to Osaka, please bring your joke book with you.

1:52: [Laughs] I'm scared, I can't talk to people anymore, I'm so scared.

1:57: No, it's really scary, isn't it? [Laughs] I'm so scared.

2:03: This is the th time, but I'd like to start with my usual trivial story.

2:08: Yes, well, when I saw today's topic, I was thinking recently.

2:14: AI-related things are also amazing, and I really like making dinner when I'm in a great mood.

2:20: So, I'm talking about AI and chat GPT.

2:28: It's been upgraded so much, and images are amazing, and images and videos can be made with AI, and I've been talking about that so far, right?

2:36: But now everyone is using AI. I think that if you use it to do various things, your cooking will be taken over by a robot soon.

2:46: Wow

2:57: What I feel about the idea of ​​it being taken over is that recently, when you go to a department store in Japan, you see a robot with an AI dog, like an iRobot,

3:08: It has a robot inside that detects your movements and you can play with it like a pet. They actually demo it in a department store and release it.

3:14: I don't know what it is, but I've only seen it a few times, and they're pretty focused on it, like, "Would you like to buy it?"

3:20: I've seen that too, so I think that soon cooking will be done by AI or robots.

3:27: I'm a little worried. There are times when I worry and I feel like I need to do that, but when I'm tired and tired from work and I don't feel like cooking anymore, my husband can only make a limited number of dishes, especially curry, so when I want to eat something different, I sometimes think it would be nice if a robot could make it for me, but I still really enjoy having a home where I can make things myself, and at times like that, I just

3:58: 56 types, I make all at once, right?

4:04: So when I think about that, in the future, even if AI develops and images develop, it will go beyond recipes and someone, not a robot, but something will make it. There are not enough people for nursing care, so there are not enough people, so I think more of that will be

4:19: I think it will be used more and more, and it's okay to be used, but I feel a little lonely in the morning, so I don't make things

4:28: There is a feeling that it's going to disappear, and today I think the topic of the topic of making things will disappear a little bit, so please stop making vibe coding

4:40: It's good [laughs]

4:46: It's too much to say it's good because it makes it seem like it's been prepared, so I don't want to say it's good, yeah, thank you, yes, I can say that, but that's right, so, you know, vibe coding, I'm a programmer, but, yeah

4:53: Well, I think it's really AI and IB without thinking about how much to make it

5:00: The meaning of bucoding is, that chat, GPT or something like that, generative AI, you say you want to make a simple app like this, something like a recipe search app, and then you get it to actually act on it, and then you can copy it to a place where it can be used as a script, and then you can give it as an app, and

5:23: Yeah, well, I'd like to talk about that a little bit today

5:29: Yes, as Imasako-san explained, Imasako-san explained

5:36: Yes, but what is Vibe Coding? Users and developers give instructions to AI in natural language to generate actions

5:44: There is a programming technique called Vibe Coding, and I would like to talk about it

5:50: I will quote from Wikipedia. New York Times writer Kivin Ruth is not a professional programmer, but he developed a small app using Vibe

5:57: He called it Software 41 and explained that it is an AI-generated tool specialized for individual needs. For example, the contents of the refrigerator

6:10: He created an app called Lunchbox Paddy that analyzes and suggests lunch boxes. Ruth is a non-

6:18: Programmers can create functional software, but he pointed out that it is low in accuracy and has many errors

6:25: In fact, the code generated by AI is used for e-commerce sites

6:30: He also encountered the problem of creating fake reviews, and said that vibecoding is more suitable for hobbyists than for important tasks. He also pointed out that AI support has made it possible for individuals to create software that once required a development team. In response, AI experts said that the Lunchbox Buddy algorithm learned Luigi Code, and Ruth's surprise was due to reproducibility, not imagination. It's a bit of a Wikipedia article, but it's well organized. It's easy to understand, and I've quoted it because the examples are easy to understand. Yes, it's good. It's vibecoding, and it's vibecoding that's getting a lot of attention now. But yes, it's great that you can now create applications using prompts. It's great. It's great that you can create applications using prompts. It's great that you can create applications using prompts. It's amazing, but recently

7:36: My boss is also someone who tries new things, so I often think that it's a coincidence that it's actually a coincidence that it overlaps with that vibe coding

7:49: By chance, the entire team developing a certain software was gone

7:54: So we had to rebuild that software

8:00: And it was made with PYON or something, and I can read PYON, but I don't know that much

8:06: I don't know much about it, so I don't know how to fix it or how to make it work as it is, and

8:14: But the function as it is seems to be quite broken, so I didn't know what to do and how to fix it and make it new

8:21: I really didn't know what to do, so it was quite a big problem. There were not just a few data points, but a lot of them, and I was told that I had to make some of them first as a priority, so I thought I'd give it a try, and I started doing it.

8:41: Yes, yes, it went well at first, so I just made it from scratch.

8:49: I'm also mostly programming, so before I start doing that, I'll do this.

8:57: You need a point to get the data, so you need a controller and something.

9:02: I know that you need a type, and all that. So I made it smoothly, so one data point was

9:09: I was able to get all the way to one controller, so I made the second one, and then the third and fourth ones, and then it's not that simple, so it starts to intersect, but

9:20: Yes, yes

9:44: So when the intersections at the places I made last time didn't connect well, or I wondered why they weren't moving even though I was making them do that action, it might be because the original data didn't have this.

9:50: I used a table called Shiko, not Sekor, which really emphasizes relationships, so because of that, without that table, this data wouldn't appear, and without this key in the data, it wouldn't connect, so I showed that a little bit.

10:10: Yeah yeah, and I thought it would be pretty difficult to recreate something that already existed, even with vibration coding, without knowing the whole picture.

10:20: Yeah

10:46: Well, I can do the general things really well, but I have to read the finer details carefully and do the repairs in the right order, otherwise it will take more time. Thanks to that, I was able to do it quickly even though I didn't know that much about Pai-san, so I'm feeling a bit better now.

11:02: I see, it feels easy at first, but as you make more and more

11:09: As expected, more and more, it's like, how is this, distortion appears, right? That's true

11:20: What was it? Just talking about distortion, I remembered that today on Twitter or something, Twitter or Twitter

11:25: So there's this picture, there was a picture on Twitter or something, like someone stacking blocks, and they can just fix it later

11:31: That's right, they put cement on the blocks and pile them up in a messy way, and it looks like a wall, but the blocks inside are already wobbly and you can't fix them later, actually

11:43: If you're watching this on YouTube, I'll put it on YouTube, please, yeah, yeah

11:50: I really thought this was super vibe coding, yeah, yeah But I don't think I would have been able to rewrite the behavior at this speed if I hadn't had that. It's really fast after all.

12:07: That's why I think it's very efficient to divide the thing you want to make into parts and code them separately.

12:14: I think it's better to tell them to make a controller after you understand the contents of the data to be controlled.

12:22: You can use it to make the controller and then do the work of adjusting it later.

12:29: Or something like that, or you can ask them to write tests or something like that, and then use those parts to make each one.

12:37: I think it's not a bad method if you check the movement as you go along.

12:45: But the family that makes it feels like I'm back to being a tester.

12:52: Yes, I see, I see. I mean, it doesn't feel like I'm making it.

12:58: Yes, that's right. If anything, you're in a position where you're checking something that someone else made, or something that AI made. Yes, that's true, so it's just getting more and more exhausting.

13:06: Ah, I see, I see. Yes, I don't feel like I've done anything.

13:13: Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's right. It's AI that's making it, so it's not bug checking.

13:20: That's right, that's what you're doing. Yes, I'd like to try one of them.

13:25: I was thinking about it a long time ago, when I went to a coding boot camp.

13:32: There are a lot of them now, but when I first started out, there were things like that.

13:38: By the way, I studied without sleep for half a year and wrote code.

13:46: I became a programmer, but right after I became a programmer,

13:52: I guess When I tried to get there, I had no experience and no university

13:57: I didn't graduate from computer science, so I couldn't find a job

14:05: So I went to a place like a cold-weather group, and this was a Washington gathering

14:11: I was asked to do an internship at a cold-weather group

14:17: I went there and was allowed to do it, and it was PHP, yeah, yeah

14:22: PHP is actually pretty old, you know

14:28: javascript is like something your grandma would think

14:49: I'm old enough to know about it, but it's getting really old, but at the time when I started the company, there was software that was already considered old, and that software was already old. The structure was amazing. It was so big that it felt like I was trying to move an apartment building with a bulldozer.

15:00: Yes, it works if it's standing there, but if you move the pipes even a little bit, it will break.

15:08: I see, it's so amazing that it's like, "Wow, this is all there is." You know, there are people who put all their icons on their desktop, right?

15:20: Yes, yes, yes, it's like that, all the files are gathered in one place.

15:26: There was one where it was so hard to find them, right?

15:31: I wonder if you can use coding to repair an app.

15:38: Well, that's one thing I'd like to try. It's too big.

15:45: How to fix an old app that doesn't work. Good job

15:51: Yes, I see, it's quite hard work to fix what's already there than to make something new.

16:00: No, I'm not talking about the software I did for vibe coding, but it's really small in scale, but it still gets tangled up, so...

16:10: Yes, even if it gets that big, if you move one file, it's all broken.

16:17: I was wondering if there's something I can do. The capacity of chats and GPTs has been getting bigger recently, and it's like you can put several pages of a book in it, so I wonder if there's something I can do.

16:30: Yes, they say that the number of things you can do is increasing, and it's like every day. [Music]

16:36: Yes, I'd like to introduce an article on vibe coding from Tech Ranch.

16:45: Trintech, a UK startup, has announced a $20 million funding round to solve the problem of AI-driven code generation techniques called Vibecoding. Vibecoding is a technique that uses large-scale language models to generate behaviors, and has recently become very popular. However, there are concerns about its efficiency, security, and technical debt. Trintech has announced a new AI platform called Artimis. The platform aims to optimize, verify, and evolve AI-generated behaviors, improving performance, security, and scalability. Unlike Bithub Copilot and Console, Artimis is a 2018 research paper by founder Sreeka Sasa. AI-based approach

17:58: Trintech is using a holo-based approach to achieve evolutionary improvements. Trintech has already signed early adoption programs with major corporations and banks, and plans to fully launch later this year.

18:12: Code generation using AI is transforming software development, and Gartner predicts that by 2028, 75% of software engineers at companies will use AI code assistants.

18:18: Yes.

18:24: Yes.

18:30: Yes. This is amazing. That programming itself is a solution developed to solve a human problem, and you search for a solution to solve that human problem, and you solve it for that solution. It's like defeating the solution, isn't it? This is amazing, isn't it? Yes, yes, that's right.

18:50: Yes, yes, well, it's natural to create something like that, but I thought, well, I see now.

19:02: Right now, everyone is talking about AI

19:11: It's about creating something and using it to create something, but this company is not for companies that use AI, but it's about creating more of that kind of platform to enrich AI.

19:21: That's right, but I think it's a little scary that even Glock leaked a lot of prompts, didn't they?

19:35: Yes, yes, I'm worried that if the security of their own AI

19:43: is not solidified, then I'm worried that the AI ​​that is used to counter security can really be that safe.

19:51: Yes, yes, and I've been doing a lot of that for a while, but until yesterday

19:57: I was doing it, but with Sovibe Coding, I was changing the old app to a new code

20:02: Rewriting it into a completely different language When I was doing it, I always asked the AI ​​to do this.

20:08: When I'm not sure if this code will work, I always check it with the need-to check.

20:14: I made it so that I could put a mark saying "please". Even if it's a special code, I can tell that I absolutely have to check this code here, so I definitely put it in the prompt.

20:28: If you do that, then something like that.

20:37: I wonder if there's an app that checks that. If you're attacked, isn't it the first place to take it? From the attacker's point of view.

20:46: Yes, it's like security is piled on security, but there's a possibility that you're too safe with that, isn't it? That's me, isn't it?

20:58: Yes, that's right. I think that's a great idea, and I think it would be really convenient if it could be done, but the AI ​​chat itself is AI.

21:04: The AI ​​itself is already making it vulnerable to attack, and there is a possibility that the AI ​​itself will be attacked and secrets may leak, and they are trying to use it to steal something

21:15: Yes, I feel like they're putting on a band-aid, or rather a big band-aid, but I don't know, but I think it's probably made by a lot of smart people

21:27: Yes

21:33: I think it's a great piece of software, but if you think about it normally, it seems like there's still a lot of talk about the AI ​​itself being leaked, so it's a bit of ... It's the one I said I wouldn't introduce much

22:06: But I read earlier that in 2022, someone did a research on the Google AppStore and it was more than 30,000

22:13: What percentage of people download the app? 6,000 or something, thousands, quite a high percentage

22:20: Even if we found out that secrets had been leaked and that they were already out, I think that would probably decrease

22:27: That's right, thanks to these apps, yeah, and thanks to these software that fixes things properly,

22:35: Maybe the file is properly in the Ignition or something like that

22:41: The most basic of the basics is definitely covered, and those kinds of mistakes that humans make

22:49: I think that mistakes will definitely decrease, but I'm really a hacker. The real edge that we attack

22:56: It covers even the so-called cases, so I'm really curious to see if it can help me in some way, but I'm looking forward to it

23:06: Yes, yeah

23:11: I mean, more and more different fields are being born, and jobs are increasing with AI, but that's right, isn't it?

23:17: No, but, but, but, I think, I'm continuing to make it because it's fun

23:24: I'm continuing to make it because it's fun

23:31: Because it's just like copying and pasting my actions and testing

23:37: It's annoying when that happens, right, right, yeah, yeah, it's true

23:52: But, it's a matter of the company, but I think it's normal to take the more efficient one, so I'm going to do it again. There were some things like, is this web coding good for this industry, is it healthy, is it healthy, or is it not good?

24:07: Yes, it was brought up as a topic, but what do you think, Li-san?

24:12: Yes, well, I can't say anything about engineering, but I tried out web coding for designers, and they asked me to make a website for them, and I tried it out.

24:27: Yes, it was really fun, really fun, and it was amazing, and they made it really beautifully.

24:36: They even made the colors properly.

24:59: They put it on exactly as I instructed, put these words on the top of the hero, and when I asked them to put the details of the service in the middle, they really did it exactly as I instructed, and they even put it in the position that I didn't even ask them to. And of course, it's responsive, so it's responsive. Looking at both the mobile and PC usage,

25:07: It's a site that really changes things, but I think it's great that you can make something like that.

25:13: I'm not an engineer, so I think you need some knowledge, but it's really hard to make it all by yourself, or you have to ask someone.

25:35: But if it's just a really simple website or a todo list or something like that, it's not that easy, but I've studied javascript a little while ago, so I'm not really an engineer at all.

25:55: It's not at that level, it's really a hit. I've only touched on it, but the first thing I learned was coding.

26:03: HTMLCSS When I was studying JAVASCRIPT, something came up at the beginning, what was it called?

26:11: It's not an assignment, but it's todo

26:16: I think it's a game, make something, I think

26:22: That's right

26:35: I remember it took a long time to make it, and I thought I couldn't do it at all, but when I asked about it, the AI ​​made it for me right away. Yes, that's right.

26:43: Yes, that was amazing.

26:52: It was years ago, so I don't remember it now, but if I was asked to make it again now, I think it would take a long time to make it, but now, if I asked the AI, it would make it all, so I'm surprised.

26:58: It's amazing, isn't it? Really.

27:04: No, really, like that kind of design, but I don't really hate UI or anything. I don't hate making the UI, UX, UI front, but it's quite repetitive and it's like dib dib dib dib dib dib dib dib. I'm getting a little bored of it.

27:22: And the design is not that good. That's not the case, so it's true.

27:27: The front end is a bit like that chat GPT with a component like this

27:33: I often ask them to make it and then I make corrections and add things.

27:38: It's better to have something rough, the front end is really amazing, really

27:45: It's a repeat, isn't it? Or you just put a bunch of boxes in a section and change the shape, so it's

27:52: Yes, they do it, and then they do some things and then they add some movement, and if you ask them to add animations, they add them, but they add a lot of animations.

28:02: Yes, they do it, but when I try to implement it, it doesn't work, so I wonder why

28:08: I do the verification myself, but from now on, anyone can do it.

28:14: I think it's becoming commonplace to be able to make websites that way, and it's already becoming pretty commonplace.

28:21: Yes, you should continue to use things that you can use, and ask a third party to do it for you.

28:29: I think it's totally possible. Yes, it's not like the entrance is getting wider.

28:37: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, it's true that the price is going down a little. Yes, it's true that it's good for people who aren't programmers.

28:43: Yes, I think that's a good thing for people like us.

28:48: Yes, well, now that this method of coding has become convenient, it's become easy for anyone to use.

28:55: It's becoming an era where even people without proper knowledge can make apps.

29:00: Now that the knowledge is gone, the security aspect is a bit of a problem. But I think the question of what to do about security will be an issue.

29:15: Yes, what do you think about that?

29:21: Well, this is kind of interesting. There was a thread on Twitter, but I shouldn't call it a thread. It's Twitter.

29:30: Someone commented on it and said on Twitter that they were using that AI.

29:38: Using that, all that code, not the code they wrote themselves, but the code they had JNI write for them, to make software.

29:44: They made a software called Azusa and are already getting paid for it.

29:49: They wrote that Twitter post that makes it seem like they were able to do it like that, and that's actually pretty true.

29:58: It was recently, March 15, 2025, so how many days after that? 2 days later 2 days later

30:08: About I'm under attack by someone

30:14: I'm being attacked by hackers or something, and what I'm saying is that I made it

30:19: I said this on Twitter, so I'm doing all kinds of hacking

30:24: People with skills are attacking the software that this person made

30:31: There's an API key that creates strange data from the database

30:36: That API key is a place to get data, to get that data, to lock the original source

30:45: It's a secret that creates it, but that secret is also something

30:51: Someone is using that and pulling a lot of data from the API, and there's a limit to the number of keys you have. It's true that it's already been used up.

31:04: I was attacked by various people, and I posted something like that on Twitter two days later, but everyone was

31:11: That thread, you shouldn't call it a thread, I also use threads a lot, so you can't call it Twitter

31:17: Everyone commented on it when it disappeared.

31:23: The secret is really secret, you should definitely put it in GitLigno, everyone is using memes like this.

31:30: Well, you're talking about it in a funny way, but if you don't know the basics, you're

31:39: Well, you're in for a scary experience, but that's right.

31:53: When you start programming, that's the first thing you're taught, right? It's the starting point. JAVASCRIPTHTMLCSS When you learn something like that and then say you want to make something, you're definitely taught that.

32:00: You're told so many times that you should never let secrets escape, and never release them, and you should never leave them out, but I think that's the weakness of coding.

32:08: [Music]

32:18: Yes, I think it's a weakness if you don't have experience. I thought so when I saw this tweet.

32:25: Yes, this is the original, I put a link to it, and it's in English, but it's interesting.

32:31: Yes, I'll put it on YouTube. Yes, those who can read it, poor Rio, poor Rio.

32:38: Yes, I hope it's working out. I guess you need the basic knowledge from the previous post.

32:46: Now, about the security part, if I knew, I could have given instructions at the vibe coding stage like "hide this secret key" or "put it where".

32:58: Yes, yes, even nowadays, it's like that.

33:04: Maybe Car's mother doesn't have that kind of function, but when I do vibe coding myself,

33:10: Yes, you can always put this part in with a comment, but this part is that gii

33:16: They often give comments like "put it in Gnoa" or "put it in the ENB file", so I guess that's how it is, surprisingly.

33:22: Maybe this system doesn't do that much, or maybe I made the code myself and

33:29: The code itself didn't have any secrets like that, but I put it in later myself.

33:35: I put it in for the sake of, and probably ignored the comments or something, I think that's what I think.

33:41: AI isn't stupid either, so yes, I think this is his mistake.

33:47: I feel like it overlaps, right? Yes, certainly, yes, well, you know, you don't get too carried away, but even if you make something, it's pretty important to be aware that it's easy to make, so there's still a vein somewhere.

34:04: Yes, no matter how many programmers make it, there will still be attacks, so I think

34:11: Yes, yes, it's easy to prevent, but I want to prevent it as much as possible, but I think

34:19: I was thinking, but I think that this kind of generative AI, JAI, is

34:26: It's like you can read all the open code and code it.

34:42: So if you're only reading code written by senior engineers, or really geniuses, then I think it must be pretty amazing.

34:49: Yes, I think that people who can use it normally probably refer to code written by people from all walks of life, like stack overflow.

35:02: Yes, that's right, so it's only for talented people.

35:07: Yes, yes, if you gather them and make an LLM, the security might be surprisingly strong.

35:12: That's true, but what do you think? Even if the engineer is talented, maybe, I don't know, it's not a writing style, but they often say that it's different, so it depends on the person.

35:22: Yes, I definitely use classes, and even if you're a really good person, you might use classes.

35:30: I think even people who can do a lot of things probably have their own way of doing things, but I think that's where we argue. I wonder if it won't change.

35:36: Ah, I don't know, but it depends on the company I've worked for.

35:41: There were quite a few companies that told me to write in a certain style. Ah, nothing special.

35:50: Personally, even if I wanted to write in a different style, there were still things like "please write this in a class" or "please write this in functional programming" and there's no color that really depends on the company, I think it's the leader of the company.

36:08: Ah, yeah, I think it's a matter of likes and dislikes. [Music] Yeah, I see, it's interesting, gradually that AI

36:15: Among them, this person, this AI, does this AI use a lot of classes? Ah, certainly, well, certainly, depending on the content of the training.

36:23: Yes, I think your personality might come out a little. Yes, yes, that's right, so next time I'll write it, I'll like it like this because I like Dib.

36:32: Ah, it's like nesting DibDibDib and stuffing it all inside.

36:37: Yes, that's certainly possible. I wonder if it will come out in the future.

36:44: Well, surprisingly, AI may change your personality. Yes, yeah.

36:50: Well, that's really recent, this vibe coding.

36:56: GPT is properly in between.

37:02: It was also like that, so this year is really amazing, isn't it? AI, what are they saying? The year of that AI agent.

37:09: Hmm, well, well, well, well, well, it's not that they're saying it, but it's an AI festival, an AI festival.

37:20: Yes, no, I really think so. It's been an AI festival since the latter half of last year, around the middle, right? Yes, yeah.

37:25: So, it's still April now, but it's already April. But it might be completely different by the end of this year.

37:35: Yes, I hope it will change for the better, yes.

37:41: Yes, so this time I talked about vibe coding.

37:49: Yes, I think you can probably make a lot of things with the free plan, so please give it a try.

37:57: Yes, I think it's fun to try it out and see what you can do and can't do. Yes, please do this.

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